Hardziej Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 41
Mage
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14th July 2016 10:11:54
Hello,
I am new here and some things are complicated for me. The first is the magic level, I spent a lot of gold by drinking potions and casting spells in order to increase it, but to be honest after increasing it by about 10 I see almost no difference in damage. How much depends on the level and how much on magic level? The second thing from what I saw the warrior kill monsters as fast as I, have more life and is armored like a tank, so where is sense of playing as mage on pve server? 42/50 top levels on Elusium are warriors, it is really normal thing? I don't think so... |
Zaza Elder Sage ![]()
Elysium
Level 275
Mage
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14th July 2016 10:40:47
Welcome to Zezenia.
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Summit Player ![]()
Pharos
Level 40
Mage
S2
39K
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14th July 2016 10:50:18
Mages their power comes from levels.. I know its odd but thats how it works. Ofcourse magic level helps a little bit but its not the main source of their power.
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Wojtus Szaman Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 298
Warrior
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14th July 2016 10:52:02
Main problem playing as a mage is lack good respawns for mages.There is no huge ares of monsters like tibia have.Most of them looks like,walk 10-15sqm and you will find a monster.Its almost imp. to lure them.
Also mage cant block a solo boss monsters loke birlusk,maybe Galiantors etc.Zezenia is based to play solo,thats why 90% of us are warriors. Gl |
Lion The Warmaster Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 143
Warrior
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14th July 2016 11:06:44
I suggest you to play with a friend. Zezenia is made for team hunts, you can see by the combined spells.
I'm a warrior, paladin. Good tank features. Low damage. For me to hunt and have a good experience rate, i have to lure lots of monsters and cast desolation/sweeping swipe as hell. I have a barbarian friend, he can't tank many monsters as I can, so he hunt stronger monsters two by two and have a good experience. If you hunt with a paladin, you and the guy could have a good Exp rate and hunt stronger monsters, having a good loot also. This is my point of view, I'm not an experienced player as some ancient ones. So you read my opinion and test it, I'm not 100% sure of it. Hey, try hunting monsters that doens't cast spells on you, here's a list of my guess: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Some of those monsters are stronger, you need to be a good Runner or you will die. If you hunt with a blocker, hunt whatever he can block... (y) enjoy zezenia o/ I hope it helps you. |
Rage Sage ![]()
Pharos
Level 371
Warrior
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14th July 2016 11:38:24 Quoting Zaza: Welcome to Zezenia. Very Inspiring Zaza noob..... Quoting Hardziej: Hello, I am new here and some things are complicated for me. The first is the magic level, I spent a lot of gold by drinking potions and casting spells in order to increase it, but to be honest after increasing it by about 10 I see almost no difference in damage. How much depends on the level and how much on magic level? The second thing from what I saw the warrior kill monsters as fast as I, have more life and is armored like a tank, so where is sense of playing as mage on pve server? 42/50 top levels on Elusium are warriors, it is really normal thing? I don't think so... Very unfortunate that Magic level have very little effect in your damage. All though it does make some difference in damage level of your mage makes an even bigger damage difference. You gain certain damage with level and magic level. For a lower level magic level is really just to get the magic levels for the spells you need to hunt with. A mage will cost you ALOT to play, either you will need friends to hunt with or be very efficient at hunting solo (lucky). Most start out as a warrior 1- It doesn't cost much to hunt and waste is minimal depending on what you hunt, 2- mages jsut cost way too much because of the high mana waste later and the low damage. I suggest most new players to start out as warrior/ranger to get use to the game and gain some income if they want to be a mage. With that being said It is also hard to be a new warrior/ranger because of lack of skill increase and the constant cool-down on training tasks. I am sure it is frustrating at times seeing all these old players with high skills. The game will change someday maybe not sooner then later as most would like but it will come.-Ragewar |
Zaza Elder Sage ![]()
Elysium
Level 275
Mage
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14th July 2016 12:42:37 (Last edited 14th July 2016 12:53:37)
I will be more helpful then!
Only reason to play a mage on PvE server is you enjoy the gameplay. To some people warrior is too boring to play despite the ridiculous advantages they have ;) Warrior is easier to hunt with, can hunt more monsters, makes more money, etc. Mage may be able to make more exp per hour than warrior sometimes.... but its A LOT more work to hunt so you will likely get tired while warrior is still watching TV and hitting F1 Love the mage gameplay, go PvP server, or make a warrior. If you play mage just hunt when you have time. Don't need to mana sit or waste mana casting spells in town. Your ML will go up nicely while hunting and as others said, level is a big part of your damage. You could also go to bosses with some warrior and burn manas that way. |
Lion The Warmaster Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 143
Warrior
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14th July 2016 12:53:49 Quoting Zaza: Mage may be able to make more exp per hour than warrior sometimes.... but its A LOT more work to hunt so you will likely get tired while warrior is still watching TV and hitting F1 lmao... this is true ![]() But seriously... all mages are that way on most of the games... for exemple: Wow -> you are paper... but you still have some good entagle spells, freeze spells and shield spells. Tibia -> You have elemental fields tricks, mana shield, elemental defenses, monster magics could be avoid like the Dragon Weave (just dont get in front of the dragon). LOTR Online -> same as Wow, your paper but you have skills to deal with it. I think if the game allow you to have more Dynamic strategy, this thing would be solved. Just a guess. |
Zaza Elder Sage ![]()
Elysium
Level 275
Mage
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14th July 2016 13:00:09 (Last edited 14th July 2016 13:15:03) Quoting Lion The Warmaster: I think if the game allow you to have more Dynamic strategy, this thing would be solved. Just a guess. Yes this is sadly lacking for mages and difficult to change i think. Only Pyro has a real ability to AOE hunt. Even in a group hunt with a warrior shaman/warlock aoe spell are super weak IMO. There are a number of interesting spells that have 0 use the vast majority of the time One example of a change: Advanced Soul Fire could be centered on target. That would give shaman/warlock 1 targeted AOE. Still no challenge to Pyro AOE but a nice option for hunting in Nocturnes, Demons, etc things with summons As is I never use that spell. It's too weak to 1 hit ghouls at my level and dangerous to try and use it on imps at demons cause I have to stand and block. Even with a tank you have to stand right next to the warrior to use that spell. Based on how the spawns are something else fun might be like.... All Mages get a Energy Wall spell that is 6sqm wide and cast 3sqm in front of them. This wall would be impassable by all but the strongest monsters. It would last 1min with 5min cooldown. Does not block players (pvp purposes) or the mage spells With this spell mages could lure a lot of monsters to a narrow passage for fun... Low levels could mess around with things like Demons, Nocturnes, etc blah Just something that popped in my mind dont know if its a good idea or not :) And it's way off topic haha of this thread |
Lion The Warmaster Player ![]()
Elysium
Level 143
Warrior
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14th July 2016 13:12:00 (Last edited 14th July 2016 13:13:55) Quoting Zaza: One example of a change: Advanced Soul Fire could be centered on target. That would give shaman/warlock 1 targeted AOE. Still no challenge to Pyro AOE but a nice option for hunting in Nocturnes, Demons, etc things with summons Yeah thats true... Because the mage strategy is getting away from the monsters, hitting them from distance. I also think is strange that, most of the monsters magics are target spells... is a nightmare if your ranger and mage xD If the monsters hits you with pre determined magic patterns... like an "Exevo flam hur" for exemple... you have a chance you know... to avoid. But with target spells, you simply dont have any chance.. you WILL receive the damage. I want to open another question also... the archer monsters and the wizards, they dont follow you, you can simply walk away and they never follow you ... this is another strange thing. |