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Teddyy
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Elysium
Level 408
Warrior
S7
S6
S5
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18th October 2024 17:21:44

How is he still not baned????? Nice Guess everyone can start boting then :)
Sataniele
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Pharos
Level 302
Mage
S7
S6
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18th October 2024 22:49:38

Don't you get tired of embarrassing yourselves? You comment on all my videos calling me a bot, I leave my mouse visible, and you still call me a barrel bot. I'm sure the staff is laughing at you. See you in Pharos <3
Sataniele
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Pharos
Level 302
Mage
S7
S6
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18th October 2024 22:51:13

Don't clutter the forum with your frustrations. Use CTRL+R to report
Gudalik
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Pharos
Level 118
Mage
19th October 2024 03:32:50

Quoting Sataniele:
Don't you get tired of embarrassing yourselves? You comment on all my videos calling me a bot, I leave my mouse visible, and you still call me a barrel bot. I'm sure the staff is laughing at you. See you in Pharos <3



U not gonna see anyone on pharos. I still remmber when we start there and we were fighting caste team while your br team with h lvls chars were standing at depo :D:D:D
Teeddyy
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Triton
Level 326
Mage
19th October 2024 04:31:46

Quoting Sataniele:
Don't you get tired of embarrassing yourselves? You comment on all my videos calling me a bot, I leave my mouse visible, and you still call me a barrel bot. I'm sure the staff is laughing at you. See you in Pharos <3



This isn't your video though is it?

Nice cave bot, it's pretty clear the GM's won't ban anyone because their player count is already negative :D
Africano Revoltado
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Pharos
Level 300
Warrior
S7
11K
19th October 2024 05:16:52 (Last edited 19th October 2024 05:21:49)

To be fully honest, I don't play this much and I don't know any of you guys. But this does not look like a bot. The fire wall he just clicked on the map... you should have trapped him with a barrel or something. If he did not move and did not respond, and then after you removed the barrel he started to move again, then it's a bot. But you had no interaction and he just looked lost in lag or his bot is really terrible. He didn't seem to be attacking any monsters automatically. He was just walking around doing nothing.

Clicking on the map and seeing the character automatically find a new path doesn't necessarily prove bot behavior (Firewall interaction). It just means the character is following a navigation command. To really determine if it's a bot, you need a more interactive test, like trapping the character and seeing if they can navigate out without responding. If there's no reaction and they suddenly start moving when the obstacle is removed, that's more indicative of a bot.

Maybe you know what you’ve seen, but your recording isn’t helpful and proves nothing. Next time, try more tests with a barrel or start recording earlier.

--Much respect, Africano
The Finish
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Pharos
Level 187
Ranger
19th October 2024 10:51:37

Quoting Africano Revoltado:
To be fully honest, I don't play this much and I don't know any of you guys. But this does not look like a bot. The fire wall he just clicked on the map... you should have trapped him with a barrel or something. If he did not move and did not respond, and then after you removed the barrel he started to move again, then it's a bot. But you had no interaction and he just looked lost in lag or his bot is really terrible. He didn't seem to be attacking any monsters automatically. He was just walking around doing nothing.

Clicking on the map and seeing the character automatically find a new path doesn't necessarily prove bot behavior (Firewall interaction). It just means the character is following a navigation command. To really determine if it's a bot, you need a more interactive test, like trapping the character and seeing if they can navigate out without responding. If there's no reaction and they suddenly start moving when the obstacle is removed, that's more indicative of a bot.

Maybe you know what you’ve seen, but your recording isn’t helpful and proves nothing. Next time, try more tests with a barrel or start recording earlier.

--Much respect, Africano


Yeah because with 450+ ping this is how characters move and react :smartass:
Africano Revoltado
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Pharos
Level 300
Warrior
S7
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19th October 2024 23:09:09 (Last edited 19th October 2024 23:09:32)

Quoting The Finish:
Quoting Africano Revoltado:
To be fully honest, I don't play this much and I don't know any of you guys. But this does not look like a bot. The fire wall he just clicked on the map... you should have trapped him with a barrel or something. If he did not move and did not respond, and then after you removed the barrel he started to move again, then it's a bot. But you had no interaction and he just looked lost in lag or his bot is really terrible. He didn't seem to be attacking any monsters automatically. He was just walking around doing nothing.

Clicking on the map and seeing the character automatically find a new path doesn't necessarily prove bot behavior (Firewall interaction). It just means the character is following a navigation command. To really determine if it's a bot, you need a more interactive test, like trapping the character and seeing if they can navigate out without responding. If there's no reaction and they suddenly start moving when the obstacle is removed, that's more indicative of a bot.

Maybe you know what you’ve seen, but your recording isn’t helpful and proves nothing. Next time, try more tests with a barrel or start recording earlier.

--Much respect, Africano


Yeah because with 450+ ping this is how characters move and react :smartass:



When discussing how game TCP/UDP protocols work with server-side mechanics, it's crucial to understand that the server handles most of the crucial operations, including movement and action requests. Regardless of client-side ping, once a request (like a click on the map) is sent to the server, the character follows that command.

To illustrate:

TCP/UDP Protocols: These protocols manage data transmission between the client and server. While high ping may affect how responsive the client appears, the server continues processing actions as long as it receives the initial request.

Server-Side Processing: When you click on the map, the server receives this request and handles the pathfinding, ensuring your character moves accordingly. The client might show lag, but the movement is executed smoothly server-side.

A practical test:

Attack a weak monster like a chicken.

Click on the map to move.

Immediately close the game.

Log back in after a moment.

You'll notice the character continued moving on the server side even though the client was disconnected.

This highlights how server-side mechanics work independently of client-side lag or disconnections. 8)
Africano Revoltado
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Pharos
Level 300
Warrior
S7
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19th October 2024 23:58:16

Quoting The Finish:
Quoting Africano Revoltado:
To be fully honest, I don't play this much and I don't know any of you guys. But this does not look like a bot. The fire wall he just clicked on the map... you should have trapped him with a barrel or something. If he did not move and did not respond, and then after you removed the barrel he started to move again, then it's a bot. But you had no interaction and he just looked lost in lag or his bot is really terrible. He didn't seem to be attacking any monsters automatically. He was just walking around doing nothing.

Clicking on the map and seeing the character automatically find a new path doesn't necessarily prove bot behavior (Firewall interaction). It just means the character is following a navigation command. To really determine if it's a bot, you need a more interactive test, like trapping the character and seeing if they can navigate out without responding. If there's no reaction and they suddenly start moving when the obstacle is removed, that's more indicative of a bot.

Maybe you know what you’ve seen, but your recording isn’t helpful and proves nothing. Next time, try more tests with a barrel or start recording earlier.

--Much respect, Africano


Yeah because with 450+ ping this is how characters move and react :smartass:



If you want to perform a rigorous test, try this: engage in combat with a monster, click on the map to move, and then close the game. Have a friend cast a firewall and place a barrel in front of you, and ask them to record the entire sequence. This will clearly show what I mean by the video proves nothing.
Africano Revoltado
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Pharos
Level 300
Warrior
S7
11K
20th October 2024 00:06:56 (Last edited 20th October 2024 00:07:44)

Quoting Africano Revoltado:
Quoting The Finish:
Quoting Africano Revoltado:
To be fully honest, I don't play this much and I don't know any of you guys. But this does not look like a bot. The fire wall he just clicked on the map... you should have trapped him with a barrel or something. If he did not move and did not respond, and then after you removed the barrel he started to move again, then it's a bot. But you had no interaction and he just looked lost in lag or his bot is really terrible. He didn't seem to be attacking any monsters automatically. He was just walking around doing nothing.

Clicking on the map and seeing the character automatically find a new path doesn't necessarily prove bot behavior (Firewall interaction). It just means the character is following a navigation command. To really determine if it's a bot, you need a more interactive test, like trapping the character and seeing if they can navigate out without responding. If there's no reaction and they suddenly start moving when the obstacle is removed, that's more indicative of a bot.

Maybe you know what you’ve seen, but your recording isn’t helpful and proves nothing. Next time, try more tests with a barrel or start recording earlier.

--Much respect, Africano


Yeah because with 450+ ping this is how characters move and react :smartass:



If you want to perform a rigorous test, try this: engage in combat with a monster, click on the map to move, and then close the game. Have a friend cast a firewall and place a barrel in front of you, and ask them to record the entire sequence. This will clearly show what I mean by the video proves nothing.


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